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Personally, I'd love to see this also come out on cd or in mixed form. I've walked around the park listening to this, and it's the perfect music for walks. Really clears the head. Think it will work even better this way than in the living room. It's nice Further is putting this out on vinyl (getting both the green and black myself), but a mix cd/digital release would allow it to be heard by different people, in different circumstances. The tapes sold out quickly, so maybe a cd release after the vinyl is gone. Also sadly not every track made it to vinyl. A cd/digital release could make up for that.
I can't say enough about this album. If you have any interest in the trippy ambient side of techno, this deserves a spot in your record collection. Better than anything made in that neck of the woods since the mid-90's, IMHO.
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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That donato dozzy geezer is the best dj i've ever seen, both in selection and mixing. The way he blends frequencies doesn't seem possible with just a desk and two vinyl.
Wicked producer too. His album K on Cul's label Further is absolutely brilliant. Can't wait to get my copy!
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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One of the best techno mixes I've downloaded in a very long time. Superb stuff!
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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it's two tracks, side A and side B, and it's bloody brilliant.
and the title has nothing to do with a certain popular substance, in case you were wondering.
and i expect we'll all be rewarded with more than a cassette...
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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haven't heard the mix yet, but am really looking forward to it. and the article on the early goa scene was absolutely superb. thanks toby and dave for this one!
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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byte me wrote:russ wrote:byte me wrote:russ wrote:does anyone out there know if the cdj2000's actually have superior DA converters to the 1000's?
there's a lot talk of features when it comes to cdj's. most of them do what it says on the tin. the most important thing is the sound quality that comes out of them. like you can tell the difference in a club! I probably can't tell a difference in a club. But fortunately I don't do clubs. I do these: http://twitpic.com/16jm0zWhen live sets play with mediocre soundcards (i.e., with mediocre DA converters) on these speakers, the drop in sound quality is huge compared to sets playing with high-end sound cards. Poor soundcards have ruined several sets for me. And if you play mp3's, you just get mud for sub-bass. Totally hopeless. v impressive rig. you're obv very serious about your converters  i work for soundcraft so i have a fair bit of experience myself. i totally agree re: mp3s giving you mud, however you must agree that on most rigs you cant hear the difference. in a studio yeah, on a nice rig like your pic you'll feel a lack of low end extension and the transients of kicks will be lost in the mud but on the whole it wont matter because you're playing to people on coke, on a terrible (and perhaps mono) club system. i suppose my point would be, i doubt they will have changed the DA converters... surely the digital calculations behind pitching up and down would affect the quality of output more than the DAs? maybe i'm wrong...
yup, most club systems are appalling. it doesn't really matter what you're playing on/with. in a club i seem to remember hearing most nastiness in the high end with mp3's, but when you play around with bass bins outside that extend to down to the low 20's, you can forget about gettting the right bass with mp3's.
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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tdmusic wrote:russ wrote:I probably can't tell a difference in a club. But fortunately I don't do clubs. I do these: http://twitpic.com/16jm0zWhen live sets play with mediocre soundcards (i.e., with mediocre DA converters) on these speakers, the drop in sound quality is huge compared to sets playing with high-end sound cards. Poor soundcards have ruined several sets for me. And if you play mp3's, you just get mud for sub-bass. Totally hopeless. Just out of interest, in your opinion is this even true of well-encoded 320kbs mp3s? I've no idea myself, but most people seem to say that even on a big system they're indistinguishable from WAV. Also, whats the DAC quality on the NI Audio-2/4/8s like? I'd assume pretty good?
One very well-known dj played for us on serato with high-quality mp3's, and when he started his set, it sounded like the system died. my heart sunk. the bass and infrabass bins that had been pushing out this beautiful tight bass suddenly pushed out honking farts. carl finlow (random factor/silicon scally) turned to me and said "what just happened to the sound?" my guess is that on most club systems, even the best, you can't hear much of a difference between mp3's and wav files. the biggest difference is between mp3/wav and vinyl. even on a ok system, the difference is huge. (and i don't think vinyl always sounds better--it just sounds different).
but when you're on a clean system outdoors, it's a completely different ballgame. everything matters. mastering of a track. vinyl vs traktor. ableton vs cd. vinyl vs. cd. $300 soundcard vs. $1000 soundcard. when a new act starts, we always have to tweak the eq depending on set-up.
for what it's worth, what sounds best on this kind of system, on average, and which requires the least amount of screwing around with to fix, by far, is cd's. but what sounds best when all the conditions are perfect is a live set with a studio-quality soundcard and analogue gear, like an sh-101. only a live set with basslines running through a synth, like mathew jonson's live, can really take advantage of the infrabass bins.
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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byte me wrote:russ wrote:does anyone out there know if the cdj2000's actually have superior DA converters to the 1000's?
there's a lot talk of features when it comes to cdj's. most of them do what it says on the tin. the most important thing is the sound quality that comes out of them. like you can tell the difference in a club!
I probably can't tell a difference in a club. But fortunately I don't do clubs.
I do these:
http://twitpic.com/16jm0z
When live sets play with mediocre soundcards (i.e., with mediocre DA converters) on these speakers, the drop in sound quality is huge compared to sets playing with high-end sound cards. Poor soundcards have ruined several sets for me.
And if you play mp3's, you just get mud for sub-bass. Totally hopeless.
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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does anyone out there know if the cdj2000's actually have superior DA converters to the 1000's?
there's a lot talk of features when it comes to cdj's. most of them do what it says on the tin. the most important thing is the sound quality that comes out of them.
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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Would get on a Russian plane and sit next to a fat Yankee tourist and be served by a rude British stewardess for this party. It doesn't get better than Dozzy all-night on Funktion-One's.
Have a good one, Toby!
The Labyrinth 2010: September 18-20
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